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Ep 1273 Where overall we think its necessary

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Created: 05/22/2013 Sharon Vaknin gives us a double report of last nights Webby Awards and the new Xbox One gaming console. Then she sticks around to talk GIFs, her vorite UrbanDictionary entires, and a few of her upcoming how-to reports for CNET.

-Its Wednesday, May 22, 2013. This is the 404 Show. Thank you for tuning in. Im Jeff Bakalar. -Im Justin Yu. -Im Sharon Vaknin. -Im Ariel NuÃez. -Welcome to the program, Sharon Vaknin. -Thank you. -Round of applause for Sharon. Its been way too long. -Thank you. -Very nice for you to join us on this Wednesday. -Happy to. -Youve been a busy woman in New York these last few days. You had to sit through that Xbox thing, whatever the hell that was well get to in a little bit, and last night you represented CNET at the, what is it, 6th Annual, 7th Annual? -17th? -What? -Wait. -I was off by a decade? -Pretty sure. -Oh, wow. Well I stand corrected. -Yes. -17th. -Now youre me doubt myself. -Wait, really? -I didnt know-- -CNETs been around for 17 years? -I didnt know it was that long. Well find out the number. -Okay. -Youre at the webbie awards last night. -I was. -And to accept an award. -Well, we accepted 2 awards. -Awards, plural. What was that like? -There was John Falcone from CNET Review. -Right on. -Very cool. -And we accepted the Peoples Voice Awards, so this was all thanks to the CNET ns. -Yes. -For how-to and DIY videos. -Also thats you like youre the how-to. -I am. -So its all you. -Well-- -You deserve this. -Me and my crew. -Right. Of course. -And CNET Reviews got review site. -Cool. -Yes. -That was really awesome. Go us. -Yes. Seriously. -All right. -Heres a picture of you guys accepting your awards on the red carpet afterward. I love that. -Oh. -Look at you and your arm candy. -Oh, my gosh. -Wow. Oh, I like that. -You sort of had like a Star Trek thing going on with your red dress there. I really like it-- -I know. -Because your hair is covering the right parts. It only looks like you have a badge on your left shoulder. I like that. -Thats awesome. -Good call. I know Im wearing whats actually orange but Instagram made it CNET Red Bull red. -Oh. -Okay. Thank you, Instagram. -Yes. -Thatll happen. -Damn that hefe, right? -Right. -So what was it like? -So this picture is really interesting. -And this is your first one, right? -This is my first webbie awards, first time attending and so its cool. So you arrive, there are pre-show cocktails across the street, very lavish. -Really? -Oh, yes. People got their hair done. -Where was it? -The pre-show drinks happened at the American Museum of Science. -Oh. -And then the awards show happened at the Cipriani Wall Street building. -Okay. -I dont know. First time being there, everything looks so beautiful and grand. So drinks were over then you cross the street which is lined by like all these butlers wearing white shirts and black pants. -What? -And as you cross the street you see the red carpet. -Oh. -You see the press like Entertainment Weekly, US Weekly. -Really? -Oh, yes. Hollywood Reporter and the red carpet sort of leads into Cipriani Wall Street. -Yes. -So I was super excited, okay, because were like internet, you know ces of the internet. We dont get Academy Awards or Oscars. -Sure. -We dont have scandalous paparazzi photos, so this was our chance except that you approach the red carpet and its blocked off. -Yes. -The only people who can go on the red carpet are the real celebrities. -Oh. -Patton Oswalt was there, Ben Stiller, Kevin Spacey. -And you guys are chopped liver. -Yes. -Thats what you guys are. -I mean it wasnt-- so those guys were on the red carpet and I was like oh, heck no. -Yes. -But the ct that youre able to like attend an award show with those celebrities in attendance is kind of cool. -I mean that was awesome, but you know I just wanted to touch the red carpet for just a moment. -Just put your finger on it. -Yes, thats all I wanted and so-- -Did you get to meet any cool celebrities? I know Jerry Seinfeld was there. -He was there, well he was there. He was there. -Through a satellite. -He was there long enough to say his 5 words, and I think he left through the back door. -Oh, okay. -But that was pretty awesome. While we were being seated, Fred Armisen was there. -Oh. -And I dont know if you caught his Google Glass skit on SNL recently. -No. -Oh, my gosh. It was so good. Okay. Im sure there are many people out there who havent. It was just ridiculous. It was right after all the editors including CNET got their hands on, or their eyes on Google Glass. -Yes. -And so we meet this guy, youll have to look it up later. And so I approached him. I was like hey, Fred. -Yes. What did he say? -Good intro, by the way. -Im telling you. I had objectives, okay? I want to watch the webbies obviously, got the good food, drinks, meet real celebrities-- -Sure. -Touch the red carpet, okay? -Sure. -I had a checklist. -All right. -Okay. -Yes, the webbie bucket list. -Yes, oh absolutely. -Yes. -And so anyway I just went up to him and I told him how much he had the CNET office in San Francisco laughing and that it was great. He was great. -What did he say though? He didnt say anything. -He did this. -He just shrugged his shoulders and said oh-- -Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. -Is that your friend Armisen the friends-- -Thats cool. -I know this, Jeff-- -I think its-- -Because I spoke to him. -Yes. I think its so awesome how you just sort of really like, hey Fred. -But the best part was that he had a date. -Yes. -And by the way, Fred also left right after he gave his 5-word speech. -Yes. -Or actually no. It was more than 5 words. He presented a winner. -Oh, okay. -And so he was in this state and I was like oh yes, Im from CNET and so you made us laugh a lot. -No clue what CNET. -No clue, right? -Oh. -And I was like were a technology news and reviews site. -And you would think because a lot of his comedy deals with tech. -Yes. -Not just on SNL but Portlandia as well. Theres a lot of iPhone gags and tech gags on Portlandia. -So you would think. You know I assumed when I watched something like the Glass skit that he maybe that some research watched our CNET First Look video. -Not only that. They parodied CNET before on SNL. -Right. -Yes. -Like its a thing you know. -Right. -And hes just right over his head. -Except that his date was like I watch CNET. I know CNET. Oh my gosh. Thats where I get my reviews. I mean like youre the best right now. -What about his date? Was it someone mous? -A 16-year-old girl apparently. -I mean at heart. -Right on, right on. -Not Fred. -So that was cool. Patton Oswalt was pretty funny. The crowd unfortunately I mean which is sort of to be expected was really busy on their phones most of the time it seemed like. -Oh, were the worst. -Yes, we are the worst. -Oh. -I mean and its super ironic when hes like delivering tech-related jokes, you know. -Right. -I was really impressed. I even asked John Falcone, the other guy in the photo from CNET Reviews and I asked him. I said is he really involved in tech because he said things like oh, this was the first year that kickstarter became a place for established companies to get funded. -Right. -Right as supposed to like people who actually needed the money. -Exactly. -I think that is so specific. -Well, thats specific but I mean Im sure hes got-- I mean I know hes a comedian, but someones gotta be helping him a little bit with that stuff. -That one I figured out, yes, yes, yes. -I mean although Ill give him the benefit of the doubt. Hes become this like you know curmudgeony sort of, you know, internet comedy guy. -Yes. -I think he might be a preview to that sort of humor. -Yes. Yes, it seemed like it because you know he would kind of-- he also said some jokes off the cuff that are really isnt funny. -Right. -Who else was there? Whos the guy from the Bachelor? He hosts it. Chris Hardwick or Harrison, whatever? -The Bachelor? -Right. -Its not Hardwick. -Harrison. -Harrison? -He was funny. -Youre barking up the wrong tree with that one. -Im sorry. -You mentioned earlier that you know for the award acceptance speeches, theyre only 5 words long. -They are. -What were CNETs for the two that were given? -So for CNET how-to background, the webbie award, the physical award which unfortunately I dont have because they make you buy them now. -But it looks like that. -It looks like this. -Time out. We passed over a very important piece of information. They make you buy the statue? They make you buy the trophy? -Im sorry. Did I just kind of like-- -Yes. -Glazed over that? -Yes. You just let that out like what was that? Are you serious? -Yes. -What? -They make you buy-- -How much is it? -I think so. Yes. I dont know. -How many can you buy? -Clearly not worth it because we dont have one, right? -Yes. -You just made a big mistake, didnt you? Like oh my God. -No. I think its public information. Thats public information. -Yes, okay. -Definitely. -I think all the winners had an opportunity to buy their award? -Right. -So-- -Its a donation. -Right, something like that. So okay. So the award is a spring. -Right. -So I kind of I took it and I was like Perfect for our next project. -Yes. -For CNET how-to. -Sure. -And then for CNET Reviews, it was Thanks, CNET ns, 5 stars. -Huh. -Because its a People Voice Award. -Right. -I have to say. -Yes, say it. -Before we leave the webbies conversation. -Oh, were leaving it? -Are we? -Im kidding. Go. I love to what do you have to say? -No. Overall-- -Yes. -I think its necessary. -What? Oh, the show itself? -The awards. -Okay. -That shouldve been your 5-word speech. Oh no, I think its necessary. -Oh my God. -Lets finish it because I feel like were just always a shoe-in for one of these, right? -Oh, absolutely. -With a huge audience, yes. -Yes. -So its just gonna happen. Thats the speech next year. -Yes. -Exactly. -Yes. I think this is necessary. -Overall, I think its necessary. Well because where else are we gonna get recognition? Where else is Grumpy Cat gonna get recognition? -Right. -I mean seriously. Their slogan is, The internet is huge, winning is huge. -Yes. -And so if you win a webbie, thats like you are one of every-- I dont know, brilliant people in their content. -Right. Isnt there a paradox with that though? -Go on. -We reward internet time the turnover is light speed, right? -Yes. -So were rewarding things that happen within a given year but in internet time its like a decade. -Yes, but if most of the time the winners either had content that went viral or in our case had a content that brings people back. -Sure. -And so that is amazing. -Yes. -Right? If you can capture someones attention, if you can get someone to watch Gangnam Style multiple times in a sea of content like thats really impressive. -Yes. -And so-- -Was he there? -No. -No? -Oh, you know who is there? -Who? -Kevin Spacey and Robin Wright. -Oh, thats cool. -And I didnt make the connection until I remembered that House of Cards isnt on TV. -Right. Netflix, yes. -And so they have to be recognized at the webbies. -Sure. Yes. -So like I said overall, I think its necessary. -Thats bad. So was that the highlight seeing Spacey and all the celebrities? That was like the overall highlight for you? -Im just-- I dont know. Seeing other people from around the internet? -Yes. -I guess that I only see as Twitter avatars. -Right. -Yes. -Some of the speeches were clever. Whats his name? Steve Wilhite, the inventor of the GIFs. -Oh, the GIF. -Oh, the Gif guy? -Yes. Steve Wilhite. -Wilhite? Okay. -Hes so hot right now. -He is so hot right now. -Yes. -His speech was its pronounced GIF, not GIF. -Oh. Man, we got schooled on that one. We had a whole argument with Emily when she was here a couple of weeks ago. -Were not wrong though. -We are though clearly-- -I get it. -No. -No. The people should vote. -Yes. -Right. And look. I get it. He invented it, but sometimes things become bigger than you. -It evolves, yes. -And its evolved into this-- you know I mean the majority of people say it GIF. -Yes. -And thats really-- no one is-- were not just gonna change overnight. You cant do that. -Right. -Yes, you cant do that. And McDonalds cant be a McDownalds or something all of a sudden. -Exactly. Youre 100-- right. -Thats rude. -Right and you know-- -Wait, you say McDownalds? -Yes, McDownalds. It was like a W or U in there. -[unk] -Well, theres no J in GIF. -Exactly. -Thats right. Yes. -And look. It is what it is. I still think you can go either way with it. But the majority of people know exactly what youre talking about wont confuse it with peanut butter if you just say GIF like the rest of us like weve all agreed on. -Yes. -Right. Yes. Im sorry. Thats how it is. -And for the record, there is another file extension called JIF. Dot J-I-F. -Oh right. Okay. Well, theres TIF. I know theres TIF. -Theres TIF, theres also JIF. -Oh, man. Theres too many file formats. Thats no fun. Its all right, but well close the door on the webbies. -Okay. -Congrats for being there. -Thank you. -Thank you for representing CNET over there. -Absolutely and thank you to the ns for getting us there. -Yes. -Until next year. -Next year, we gotta be there. -All right. -Lets do something. -Okay. -Make it so, right, and then itll happen. -Yes. -We have to talk about Xbox because that happened yesterday. In Redmond Washington, Microsoft held a little event. You probably heard about it because we did. Our first CNET Live from New York. -Yes. -Which was pretty great. -That was cool. -Right. That was pretty awesome. -It went pretty smooth I would say. -Yes. You think it did, right? -Yes. -I think it did. That happened and it was fun and thanks, Ariel, for working the board on that. It was not an easy operation. -Not at all. -Its tough to handle all that. Microsoft gets on stage. They do their little song and dance. -Yes. -And when the dust had settled, we found out that the next Xbox is not called Infinity, is not called 720, no, no, no. We have a much worse name for it. Were gonna call it Xbox One. So right away like for a second take away the specs, take away all the stuff, what do you think of the name because Im like a name guy. A lot goes into a name. Theres a lot in a name and this is something everyone can speak to. What do you think of the name, Xbox One, O-N-E? -I think Im in the minority because I like it. -Oh, you do like it. -I do. I like it from a consumer standpoint, but for Microsoft I dont know if they just kind of screwed themselves because whats the next one gonna be called? -Two? -Two? -I dont think they screwed themselves. -One S. -Yes. I understand what youre saying. I feel bad for HTC. -Thats awkward. -Oh, right. -Thats awkward. Theyre like both riding the elevator together. They look at each other like oh, sorry. -Yes. -So that happened. Yes, I mean I just dont think its a very authoritative name. Its never a powerful. -I see. -Even with the Wii and hindsights 2020, but when the Wii came out everyone was like this is a stupid name. It is a stupid name. -Yes. -And it still is a stupid name. -Right. -But One just doesnt evoke that sense of like I get what theyre doing. -Power. I see what youre saying. -Its like an all-in-one sort of thing. Its just not a very like you know-- -Yes. -Authoritative. -Feel like Xbox 360 was always a mouthful and you can never shorten it to anything, right? -For instance. -Actually 360 is still 3 syllables though. -Right, but now you cant-- -And a PS1 is like easy to pronounce or like Wii U is super short too. Maybe they just wanted to get a little abbreviated. -I have the One. -Remove a syllable. -Yes. -I always practice it. -I got an XB1. -Yes. And 1 is the best, right? -One. -Youre number 1. Maybe thats what theyre going for. -Yes. I dont know. Its not the number 1, its the word one. -Yes. Xbox One. -All right. So we can go on about the name forever, but we still-- the chairman says they shouldve called it Xbox Intimate. -Oh. -I dont know about that. Thats a different product altogether. So it seems like gamers kind of got shafted a little bit with this announcement yesterday. It was not really for gamers. It was more this is what this thing can do. Its your centralized entertainment hub for your living room. Youre gonna have live TV integrated with the experience. Theres like a 3-layered OS situation going on where theres a dedicated process going on for the TV, a dedicated process going on for gaming and then a dedicated sort of Xbox Windows shell that theyre running in the middle. So its a nice little sandwich they got going on there which is what we assume is allowing people to switch so quickly between these services. If you watch that first demo, they were moving from TV to the games back and forth in pretty quick shion. -Well, right after the announcement-- -Thats what it looks like. -Thats what it looked like. -What it looked like. -These are produced announcements, guys. -Right. No. All Im aware-- -Right. So David Katzmaier, our TV reviews guy. -Right. -He seems pretty skeptical about the channel switching. -Of course as you should be, as I am too because we all know what happened with Nintendo and their ambition to make a TV-integrated product, its awful. -Yes. -There, we said it. Its awful, okay? Now the thing with Xbox, it has an HDMI in and HDMI out. So we dont know this for sure and this information will slowly but surely come out and we can all wrap our heads around it, but what we understand it to be is that itll sort of take your set-top box, pipe that in through the Xbox so your Xbox is bypassing your TV. -Yes. -Be the middleman there and then take the-- put its own Xbox overlay over that. -Yes. -And then spit it back out to your television. -Yes. -Right. Now how is it controlling your cable box? Well, the only logical assumption would be that its using an IR blaster, and we can see from the shot of the back of this thing it does have an IR port. -Right. -Right? -Right. -So that is not gonna be as quick-- -Yes. -As they were implying in the demo. Its kind of ridiculous. -It is. I mean I just reviewed or did a how-to on the Samsung Watch On app for the S4 and Samsung is also trying to get into this space. So basically the Watch On app is a smart television remote and you can control your TV using the built-in IR blaster and instead of you know typing in the numbers, you can just hit food network-- -Right. -And itll switch to it except it wont just switch to it the way they were trying to-- -Exactly. -A show in the announcement like David Katzmaier was saying my phone will type in 5, 4, 3, 2. -It takes a couple of seconds. -Right. Right. -Its not a very elegant and seamless experience. -Right. -Anyone whos ever used a Slingbox knows exactly what thats like. -Okay. -Slingbox takes a really long time to change the channel. Now Id imagine it would work a little quicker because youre doing it locally and youre not doing it outside of your home network. Id imagine itll be a little quicker but dont be mistaken. -Yes. -Its still gonna lag a little bit and when you say switch to MTV, youre gonna be sitting there for 7 seconds. -Yes. -Which is not like using a remote control. -Right. And so at the end of the day Microsoft, their promise isnt were gonna make channel switching ster. -Right. -So we cant dwell too much on that. The point is its an all-in-one. -Yes. -Were the whole experience-- I mean I was most, not most impressed but one of the things that impressed me most was the snapping, so you could be watching like a football game and then have your ntasy scores on the side like thats awesome. -That and Im glad you brought that up because to me, you know, the sort of the letdown of having to wait for channels to change is worth it-- -Right. -Because youre getting a very unique TV watching experience unlike anything you could have currently with a set-top box. -Assuming you have at least a 50-inch TV. -At least. -Yes. -Right. -Okay. -So-- -We put that on the table. -Absolutely. So for me I feel like yes. Im gonna you know if I gotta wait a few more seconds for channels to change and Im gonna be able to like did you see that demo, Justin. -Yes. -You can snap like Skype next to whatever youre watching. -Yes. -You can snap in Internet Explorer, you can snap even maybe gameplay or like something like that next year. Tell me thats cool. -Yes. -And thats something that Nintendo wasnt even scraping at. -Yes. -So the thing is at the end of the day, do consumers want, do we want to see those scores on the TV? -I think some people do. -Okay. I mean-- -I dont. -Are we already content with you know just kind of having our phone and looking at-- -Right. -I dont-- -Again, they gotta make it easy enough for dummies. -Right. -The second the dummies can figure this out and be like oh, this is just a seamless great experience then itll catch on. There is way too much right now just, you know, up in the air diciness. Its very hazy right now how it will all work. I hope we get more information from now before E3 but if not, you know, E3 is only 3 weeks away, so well figure that out. -Pricing and availability, please. -Yes. You know what? I mean I care. Thats a huge part of the story. -Yes. -But for me its like yes, theyll get to that. Thatll happen. -Yes. -Its coming out this year so you know what that means. Its coming out for Christmas. -Yes. -Thats when its coming out for the holiday season. Thats when itll be here. Dont worry. This Black Friday will be the worst Black Friday ever. Okay? Thats definitive right now. -Okay. Go. -PlayStation 4, Xbox One, its over. Dont leave the house. Its gonna be awful. -Yes. -And thats the big takeaway. Price is a big thing. I think this is like a $400 to $500 thing. -Okay. Im glad you said that. -Why? -It better not be the $599 PS3 price that we all paid, only to be betrayed by like a $300 price tag months later. -Its insane. Its insane. Well, I mean is this something-- now, you should really have something to say about this, Justin, because its not just the press conference yesterday was really not aimed at gamers. -Right. -I am pretty sure 60 minutes they did not show gameplay once. -Yes. -Right? They didnt show an actual person playing a game live demo on the stage. -Yes. -They didnt do it once, okay? Anyone else wanna like you know take a step back and think about that for a second, thats freaking insanity. -Right, right, right. -They did that at the PS4 thing, someone was playing Watch Dogs at least. -Yes. -So this press conference is not aimed at gamers really. It aimed at like people-- its the first console not for gamers really. What do you think about some of the features they were showing off? -You know it was funny like as I was watching the demo after, as I was watching the press conference afterward, I was also reading comments online of what people were saying about the initial impressions and they were all negative. They were overwhelmingly really, really bad. And it kind of got me wondering about press conferences in general but specifically this one too, do you think that people that you know follow something online for such a long time-- -Yes. -Right? And then spend the time to watch a 2-hour press conference and then go online to comment on that afterwards might have bigger expectations. Im wondering if these internet commenters may not be the majority of what gamers have in terms of their opinion. You know what I mean? Do you think the average gamer is gonna think about this console negatively or is it just the people that are shouting loudest online right now that get heard the most. -All right. Well, first of all you didnt answer my question but second of all-- -But I know, okay. Ill answer really quick. I think its really cool. I think like the voice activation features write that ct that it could sense heartbeats is incredible. -Whats up with that, right? -The ct that it can sense motion in complete darkness supposedly is awesome. -Right. -And then the ability to play games and have video going through Skype or watching a movie and then chatting on Skype at the same time-- -Yes. -Is awesome. -Right. -You know like you dont have to do the okay, press play on 3 and have like a phone conversation and talk about something and youre watching at the same time. Its awesome. I think thats really cool. -So you do think its cool? -So I think theres a lot of positive things about it. -Okay. -But all I heard was hate. -Right, but thats the internet for you, dude. Its just the platform for people to complain. -Yes. -Right? I think you have to remove yourself from all that and just look at it, oh obviously we do as journalists have to be completely, you know, objective about the whole thing, but I think theres a sense-- -Is it a timeframe thing, I mean because people have been waiting for so long-- -Yes. -After the 360 came out, how long has it been like almost a decade, right? -Its gonna be by the time it comes out, itll be around 8 years. -Right. Is it the length of time that they spent between the consoles that makes people so negative about it? -No. I think at the end of the day, people just wanna be wowed. They just wanna see something that they-- they wanna see like the DeLorean flying like they wanna see something so out of the freaking box that they just cant even put into words. -I think theyre sizing themselves up. -And thats what it is. Its only until you take your, you know, take a step back and really not necessarily lower your expectations, but temper them and realize that press conferences are freaking really hard to do. -What-- -Okay. Well, whats the bottom line for gamers? I mean-- -Its the games, right? -And thats not necessarily rhetorical, right? Its like its the games-- -Right. -Its graphics. -For the gamers, theyre disappointed and they should be because it wasnt a good press conference for games. -It wasnt, you know, but were talking about 2 different things. It wasnt a good press conference for games, but is the console good for games? -Yes. -We dont know yet. I mean its-- -But based on the specs, it sounds awesome. -Yes, its a high-end gaming PC. -Yes. Remember like people were really complaining about the lack of storage and how you have to take it apart on the 360 and then put your own hard drive in. Thats a big hassle. To have the USB 3 on the port on the front, thats awesome. -Yes. -Its good. -Right, you can have unlimited storage and external storage is very cheap now. -Thats fine. I mean-- -You can add terabytes as storage for a couple of hundred dollars. -But it should have a 2-terrabyte drive in it. Why does it only have half the terabyte? I dont understand that. -Yes. -Yes. -Like whats that about? -500 gigabytes isnt enough. -Its enough-- -I guess if youre acting as a home hub for all your entertainment stuff you might need more-- -I mean well youre hearing now that youre gonna have to install the entire game regardless of what it is onto the box. -Yes. -Right? If these are gonna come on what we can imagine are Blu-rays, right? Blu-rays can hold up to 50 gigabytes. -Yes. -You know thats 10 games, right? So I dont-- -So you cant install games on an external drive? -I think you can. -Oh, okay. -Sounds like you can. -Okay. -But yes. I mean its still you know like you know. So I mean yes. The games are gonna look good. -Well have a how-to for that, Jeff. Dont worry. -Its a high-end gaming PC. Its no different from something you can you know like its gonna look good. -Blu-ray player and Tact 2 if its 500 bucks, thats a great deal. -I mean well really-- -Maybe. -Its just a high-end gaming PC I guess. -Thats all it is. -Look sideways. -And not even. Its kind of like above average you know right now. By the time it comes out-- -Yes. -I mean you can build something thats more powerful than this thing right now. I mean it has 8 gigabytes of RAM now. Like you buy like a high-end PC that the standards become like 16 now. -Right. -So you know look. Its tough. -Yes. -Weve been playing games on PS3 and Xbox for almost 8 years now and yes, those games dont look as good as you know the PC counterpart. -Yes. -But they still look pretty decent. -Yes. -Like I dont know about you guys but Tomb Raider on 360 looks ridiculous. -Yes. -And when I saw GTA on PS3 looked really good so I mean its not-- -Yes. The PS3 still looks good, yes. -Its gonna be okay. Its gonna be okay. -How do you feel about the controller because I have a picture of it up here. It looks exactly the same as the 360, whereas I remember-- -Well, it doesnt look exactly the same. -Almost. I mean its the same shape especially compared to stuff like the Wii U. -Looks a little taller. -That came out and-- -It does look taller. -Are you glad that it doesnt have screens and motion sensor pads on the front and back of it? -Yes. -Im happy about that. -Id imagine gamers were happy that its just a gaming pad. -Im happy-- -And not another TV. -It seems they did a bang-up job with the D-pad, that Godforsaken D-pad that made the 360 controller, you know, imperfect. -Yes. -It sounds like theres 4 independent locations for vibration which is something no controller has ever done. -Yes. -So you can have like front-loaded vibration, back-loaded vibration. Ive heard some stuff about the triggers, how theyre more sensitive to programming and stuff like that which is really interesting. Yes. Im definitely into it. I think it looks good. I wanna get my hands on it and feel what it looks, you know, see what it feels like. -Yes. -But yes. Im into it. I think its a nice-looking piece of hardware there. -I think it was a smart choice by Microsoft to keep it . -Sure. -But especially because well, they have their SmartGlass app. That by the way is going to get really confusing over the next year. -Its our thing, yes. -O,Ep 1273 Where overall we think its necessary.