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Created: 10/20/2011 The most reliable cars are.... Nissan Leaf spawns a plug-in cousin, Ford stops your teen from texting while driving, a scathing report on red light cameras, and we drive the Porsche Panamera Turbo S.

Quality ratings and reliability ratings have taken a huge hits. Also tell you about the latest -- teachers Smartphone to show up on your dashboard and were gonna go for a ride an abortionist so st it made -- giggle like girls. That more its car tech live hello everybody Im Brian Cooley -- Wayne Cunningham. Antuan Goodwin Kelly Hendrix at the controls this week lets get into the stories that are car tech news this week gets a 27 of October edition. A Thursday. Lets take a look at the latest from consumer reports. We normally kind of walk a different side of the street than they do I mean -- are you great reliable testing organization with a look at the holistic. Car in kind of a universal way -- has up product. -- is a thing of -- were a little on a different side of the coin they are but this is very interesting stuff because it puts us together on technology. They found of the most reliable car out there now. He is Sony. Now they didnt a lot of slim models to -- Noted -- that has a sufficient amount of date. And this has to do with the consumer reports testing methodology here -- and this is really a survey what they do -- they. Asked all all the subscribers one point three million people to submit. I reports on the cars -- -- -- a survey as opposed to their own testing right and they have to get secondary and they had to get a hundred reports for each car attempted to its fullest. And so they only had that the XB in the -- -- reports of missing the new tc yet which is my vorite of the science would like to -- -- it did but. But yet and the M yes I came up at the top but as most reliable. According to these these survey results yet with the best model being -- Which is that irly new one. And then the XB was at the bottom as the there was one now the one that was the big -- there that thing was a big issue was four going from tenth which was actually pretty good that sounds bad but -- messy pretty strong for -- stork like. Down -- twenty. And a lot of it had to do with getting tripped up on their own technology. Right they mentioned. At least consumer reports cited my Ford touch as being problematic yet and also the -- dual clutch transmission in the fiesta -- the focus. Now this is where Im not sure about. These results because are these actual problems the mechanics had to solve or they just things that. Somebody driving the cars that this doesnt feel right I think its the -- -- the reports of people who came in because -- they didnt talk to dealers on this they talked to the owners instead -- you had any problems with your car. And people are not really running -- cars a compound in cars just dont stop running with the exception of -- They just dont do that but they do give people the Willies about things not working right. It thats what we do what theyre getting reports on here for as a siren into it it was like -- I had a problem with the transmission. May be I got educated later that it wasnt a problem but I remember having a problem. With the transmission by -- -- with those new dual clutch transmissions which feel different than your standard automatic. Somebody might have rotted and mechanic and -- this doesnt feel right -- -- said. Well check it out and thats 500 bucks -- truck so He repaired events. I definitely dont forget that Eric and it wasnt a problem because Ford has said there was a story that we saw that we talked about last week where theyve got. That -- better job educating customers on what -- power shift transmission isnt a dual clutch automated manual. It doesnt have the same -- sort of -- people are used to it shifts kind of ball locally compared to a silky automatic. -- a bad thing its just a different thing. And so they have not educated customers about the lot of customers gonna go off -- off the -- for the new car thinking oh yeah I -- automatic transmission but heres heres the big change on the slowest. For that this 2011 survey is that Porsche. Was at number two U last year it dropped to -- number of the second from last this year how did that happen whats going on and I am I guess was -- I -- they said the new key and was possibly problematic says there -- number 27 almost 28 companies -- I havent heard of anything horrible with the key and mean and -- just missed it but I wonder what users are complaining about release ABC it could get theres back. But -- -- dont reckons that reliability because of its definitely not even take it out that people are complaining elegant way to the Porsche dealership now walked -- with them. If youd be electronic -- that what happened what happened to me I was gonna go -- -- -- Lebanese army truck and a sworn if it came in -- I. -- of the key it apparently was the issue proportion to go from nearly -- to nearly worst. Cool to get -- as we of the hybrid in that the -- and ever hybrid in early this year there seemed to work fine it. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- dressed in the actual owners. You know what were areas and in previous generations you know Porsche a portion of -- files are partial files -- -- people who walk onto a lot -- wanted to -- than their whole life and they know college and high expectations for the new cars. A lot of these people were reading running -- and an -- people who just. You want an expensive car right theyre getting jaguar owners yeah thats the problem though the BB level of expectation is different -- different crowd -- we had to complain about over the air conditioning their dominance. Relatively st but compared to -- -- -- -- -- not that -- acknowledged theyre different things like -- you know public. I guess at that soccer mom -- in -- key in our eight key in a row will complain about theyre too many buttons. The instrument cluster where is your average you know in an attorney you -- the 9/11 and theres really like a car yeah -- -- -- great I dont care about your conditioning branded dates -- Guy its a different set of -- of what they expect from the car -- and add -- of the Porsche engineers to that their -- you why isnt the st. There are buttons are kind of all over carbon and other live on accurate crazy ones which here its like whoa thats a lot of switches light switches but even they even got a wake me up with the amount of switching theyve got going on and on buttons for all -- -- -- -- But thats -- buttons but sometimes -- that they can stumble over themselves though lets look at the bottom analyst -- -- NASA bottom yet jaguar. Course and thats -- is no surprise to anybody that -- hours from the seventies. -- and aero Lucas. But -- a prince of darkness. But modern jags. And I feel like. -- feel that theyre pretty damn reliable because there are not jaguar parts theyre just the same parts of they buy from everybody else right. I dont know whats these cars and reliable less than their technology isnt. I dont we -- -- at -- to be hard to use that we should not be dialing and tell the public shift in -- people think its cool. Until they have for a -- is reading. Yet and at that thing ever stops working your cars data that little circle motorbike gear into Hewlett the top -- people I keep twisting it the in this the volume. And I get panicky put the -- reverse on the freeway at that thats expensive. What are you guys doing to me -- -- any of those have iled because that is that could be an issue of the answer Roma or stopping nothing rising yet -- you cant get that thing to go into gear that building is going. And thats a completely. Pointless feature me if they used to take the entire center console -- -- -- release -- -- -- carbon neutral. -- -- get onto a flatbed really they can fix it yet you seek the whole center console part due to that are no idea yeah thats a disaster. If that happens to even a few owners you never forget that you tell everyone you know. My car at a problem and -- the interior out to get everything I dont -- and obliterated -- to the guts out. Give us one more off the list. The Wii because notably lower interest that this is -- theres a little of the shot and -- around. -- exit Gartner writes and Chevrolet. Its that number seventeen that youre gonna mid level here. Didnt really rise or ll through the year and -- -- used to be ten chuckling. Now there are behind savvy nationality -- but -- their models the gamble -- actually rated as the most reliable of the Chevy models and that actually pushes. Pretty r into them more reliable scale n -- Cut it out less than a year -- bodes well thats yeah a negative reports -- -- him that data when -- habitable and a little bit and said we only had reports of just over a hundred owners -- because there arent that many out there. And I havent had some long blue on the -- relief is not an evangelist for Apple currently used every -- -- -- that I see has some sticker on it -- some places like this is new gas. And you expect -- -- uglier than you totally thats why theyre not getting any reports of problems because the people wanna reportedly bought those cars so r are evangelists. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Nissan sticking their neck out on another version of electrification it is mentioned belief. Theyre gonna have a plug in hybrid electric remember the leaf as a plug in theory you discharge of -- off flow line current and thats -- But is -- gonna be a plug in hybrid so its gonna bring in a combustion engine as well as a substantial battery pack. And this is for a 2015 apparently -- look a new model or the discount. New plea in the next Altima hybrid didnt -- release many details on this story Minnesota. Came out -- Carlos goes and -- it COB sun came out and said. Were gonna do -- plug in hybrid. Got 2015. Major vendor but that theres theres that this is joining us were gonna launch for the breast alcohol that Im betting theres gonna be -- in -- pirate. Other artists or something like that you I would hope so because I did they go -- -- -- -- they screw up the message of the league so again. And they are doing now with the ultimately are actually going to create their own hybrid system which they have not. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Halt Apples video doubters dont want to go through all those bad Solder joints will be there gonna sloppy and not -- and right and -- -- smoke. Trails from burned to -- -- -- -- carpet where -- drop the iron goes wrong. So -- know Doran London connected st enough but then social was burned and three as it heads droppings I dont even if you dont want those guys go -- soldering irons are yet to blade none of that. I thought K miles its a -- knew our -- we see -- -- LA error. When its gonna be at the Tokyo motor show at the beginning of December of the -- -- like December 1 through third or something. But yet this is there there kudos -- motion design that they kind of be viewed. On the thing was the scenario concept and its actually. In -- in production right now on the the -- -- were gonna beginnings in nice looking car -- its basically if you you know kind of cover everything. From the you know. The bottom up its at the same reforms the Mazda six is is basically my feeling via. Does give you the -- six look like when -- You know on ugly it lower bodies completely off the proportions are all the same you arent there yet you Blair and the -- -- It looks it looks much more details -- was more -- -- more. Aston repeat from this front quarter of the rear quarter looks more like an Aston repeat which is an -- a -- of for a from Austin but its -- -- -- -- -- you from these -- of course thats -- the contest. -- out and thats the best looking -- on a Mazda in Egypts. Theyre trying to get rid of a goofy grin let me design is get in what I also like is with this concept theyre showing -- -- sky active technology rite which is their direct injection stuff which is gonna Mazda three soon. Are -- twelve -- to three so its nice to see used here and I would actually expect a new. -- midsize sedan it. Well this is it gonna be the the sky active. So -- -- -- two Turbo diesel -- it wouldnt expect to get that we probably wont get it theyll probably have it over there in Japan maybe in the European spec. Affiliates is gonna have the effective. Regenerative braking system that you know. Basically. A replaces the -- -- with passengers or every time you break you gather up information. And I information on energy. And that energy is then cycled back into the system and much in the same way that that the the all an ultra metre and a regular car would to power things what -- headlights. Your you know recharge your battery -- Fire you know youre yours youre cylinders and all that so if its kind of like the efficient dynamics. Regenerative system and BMWs. Where you know its not yet really same thing ctored into the start -- system or anything its just. And -- -- to reduce drag on the engine. And as r as I know these guys dont actually pull the alternate or on the is not at this point they just augmented by having it free -- more. And have this system do the work whenever it can but if they need to they can re engaging Automator. A yes I really was hardly Austrian -- and one maybe this will as a concept -- anyway -- at a time arise by Begin production is to leave it in but they dont actually have originally written just yet. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- As a some of the highly sought altered meter actually is the generator in the start stop system isnt so its becoming gently says being back -- with a melt. -- like the -- electric crews are the Malibu hybrid thats high tech. Thats like something I would do in my yard stick it. But lets let the n belt be in my hybrid drive issue it is nothing you can do anything we categorize anything you can do we can do worse is that it. OK so modest at the some cool tech in the miles attacked Kerry coming out in Japan and will be on top of that one quick -- here forward is advancing another featuring to Mikey Mikey personalized settings -- in the keys so when whoever gets in the car and starts at. Gets their own personal settings and most imported all personal. Prohibitions. So you dont have been able to set it up so if -- kid gets him with their -- starts the car and doesnt -- on their belt. The stereo doesnt work pretty good incentive. Now theyre adding do not disturb technology -- -- also when they get in with their Smartphone -- to saint. -- -- goes in and it automatically captures text and cashes them or replies I think with a which is cool. Nice little you know wrestle slick way to do it but I think we have to do is not use sync and work around this right if Ford really wanted to make us effective. And they should just include -- a -- blockers repeats that technology exists it doesnt doesnt diesel as Ive seen that yet. Its illegal because you cant control it just to the cabinet McCall are the FCC is never -- -- count instead although that. The crazy man at a transportation Ray LaHood He says theyre looking at it seriously like it and be in love it will roaming dead spots and -- in -- -- Alito about -- -- -- leak out of the card. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Fostered technology. That allows a Smartphone to largely echo its screen on to the dash of the car. And we got a couple stories about that this week a new version of the command system from Mercedes called at your command we saw this at. Frankfurt Frankfurt. They didnt have a name for yet so now they call it at your command or -- that name which is this whole new intece that they kind of -- say. Is youth oriented. Why is that because its got the same bad colors of the virgin America plane cabin cause it looks like Tron is -- -- yeah exactly nothing to you flights from like nothing. Are you kidding. Unlocked -- makes if you have money I love it. So heres this whole 3-D silly -- a Disco look and thing that. They think spells -- -- -- the intece works well it looks a little cliche but it works well but now that what do they do with -- link in this. In this platform here what they. Announced that avenue at your command system which is due to rule out in a few years. And -- be sort of iPhone enabled but then they also do a -- -- -- this is really focused on on the iPhone but then they also have a merely version. Either plan on watching that in in their cars as well okay so theyre gonna adopt mirror linked into their intece so again your Smartphone were seeing a concept if youre watching -- video. This free concept. Put enough there but this is this is the idea of starting to get peoples. Phone intece to if not exactly largely echo -- the screen most carmakers are gonna wanna massage it a little bit. -- -- -- -- -- for a phone intece isnt necessarily great for a dash screen -- in terms of the context youre using it in or the size of the screen its gonna -- to take a three and a half inch iPhone. Postage stamp display bloated to eight inches and -- -- good. There are helping to better ways to use that realistic about it but they changed dramatically or at least have a mode that when you link it to mere link or whatever iPhone equivalent there is is that it would -- Change automatically to a car friendly and yeah like the Android car mode which is still pretty good to go on the phone it goes to those six big buttons column but anyway the the other story around merely not just Mercedes getting on -- is Toyota -- at the even ahead of them they argue greater rule it out in European markets. And was that some dates on this this is moving very quickly here but as a competitor to life iPod out from Apple. Which does something very similar on this thing were seeing here from -- -- -- post upon cars dot cnet.com. Shows a slavishly. Perfect similar representation of whats on the phone to whats on the -- screen. Which I think is its good in this case. Ushering in nav screen -- very big sort of graphical text around it so that works well on the car screen. Thats -- thats thats a nice echo if you will of small device to big screen. Yeah that head unit there -- your two looks like what weve seen in the new -- this is. The way its sort of set up in the new sign ons yeah -- -- dont have -- over in Europe its twit over there are so. Since right they dont same thing I guess but Sony head units that they currently -- looks like -- theres a retro fitting with this technology. So Toyotas European division is the first to allow true Smartphone replication on the index display so thats kind of a first of the auto -- break. Someones flat out got it ready going to market it looks like on the European. Theres an interesting here. Because of US liability issues. OEMs are reluctant to do this in our market but less -- That limit this -- litigious entities there is the second. Or third. Our European drivers are given the technologys full capability slid the thing about -- were doing too much oil and the thing -- the merely. Suspect is that its it has to be enabled in app. And that there is are there is -- testing process. And certification process for apps that use -- link so. In app like the that what is it like the deult Twitter app for example which you really just dont wanna be dealing with in a car. Wont be -- compatible and that wont mirror. So only apps like decision is that doesnt that parking activity consortium. Okay the people who were actually behind the nearly expect yes Nokia leads or leave their part of it but it I dont know if theyre actually like. Quote on quote believe you did I had a phone call of -- recently. And they cant seem like their an independent body much like them. Bluetooth. In the -- so they they operate outside of that this. Guinness terminal mode yet and became CCC and -- branded merely yet because thats -- the whole. If youve heard all these names to talk on the show -- also infect you its this its iPod out and thats kind of the two -- right now that are out. So this is a thing like on the first. On the IOS four iPad. You had to have the app be permitted to put itself its its image out through the dock connector right. Well as opposed to now everything mirrors out all of me it -- -- and -- On a per -- basis on the -- and iPad out wont Apple iPod out. Which is what like for example the -- your -- radio uses for its on Brian mirroring you cant see the home screen. Though that wont work no it has to be an app like so that the pioneer at -- app will send out or. A motion GPS -- sixty PS that will send out but if you accomplish your Winamp thats not quarter quote iPod out compatible. Youll get anything on the screen -- interesting but on the iPad not not talking about cars you can get everything out now -- -- -- -- -- -- a video of a video -- -- -- -- to do this kind of intelligent -- connection its still being filtered -- -- -- interest Africa. And thats that the -- of different connection. From from the -- -- out and you know. Some Steven manucturer probably -- able -- screen of video mirroring. Yet but it -- -- you when you control. Though okay got it thats why its not so attractive are so vessels go to merely to stories moving there auto -- we havent talked about a while we. -- -- the -- a lot already mostly last year. -- their mobile Wi-Fi hotspots Chrysler victim of VW. GM they offer them I think its typically as a dealer installed option. Might be some ctory level and I dont remember. But they offer a hot spot that kind of got I think obviate youd buy everything having three -- I dont need a hot spot my -- everything I bring in my car already has three G as well as Wi-Fi you know its like -- wanna make another -- If I can just go native three G on my device so -- -- taken a different tack than what theyve done here and -- -- -- with another company as well. Is to now create. This idea public telemann X platform that also has an app bass to it. So what theyve done here is theyre gonna go after the tellem medics market -- like that Hughes and and -- final those guys that make systems like embrace which -- -- -- -- And medicines and and -- a -- old Mercedes. And and and form in Lexus an all those sorts of things and trying give you Mormon telemann X platform as well as -- apps platform. This connects directly to the cars system bus to its -- -- OBD two -- so very different more complex kind of auto net. And well get some more details on this as a I -- them a call to find out whats -- whats going on here in terms of details but its much more integrators are just playing all hot spot in the car which. All those Verizon MiFi -- -- everything key and also -- -- setting up I mean obviously out and its trying to stay relevant. But setting up a huge. Traumatic service that thats pretty intensive so yeah thats gonna be ought to work a lot of investment there and a lot of big competitors oh -- idea I mean. He uses is really the big. ECUs under a lot different labels in different car companies but. Taken out there. And what theyre going after here Steve you all the stuff you find -- like OnStar mobile where you can. Log in your car check the lock status do geo fencing you get alerts at the Carly is a certain area. And if its electric car you could you check charge state -- -- to charge I imagined things and if you can switch on or off from the BD two -- which is just an -- Or some other bus connections available keep -- -- on that lets you know what -- -- pick -- that gets. -- -- happening here with another integration. Android. Integration in cars and we get lot of questions about the iPod connections recent talk on the iPod -- out there iPod iPhone -- Factory or after market a lot of -- -- -- Android are like okay -- why do I got an aux Jack you -- help me. -- company called -- . Okay its part of -- of America announcement signals -- . Its a brand event of America which is a pretty big twelve -- industry. Company is shipping what they say is the first Android car kits. To provide Bluetooth audio streaming from an Android device to the car radio. Keyword radio radio hook up front -- this look really good until radio got in there. Yes -- basically what this is is and wired FM -- is basically an FM transmitter that wires in line with your cars antenna. And the the antenna input on the back of your AM FM radio and and it connects to the -- phone via Bluetooth. So it acts as a bridge between you know FM modulation and and Bluetooth a two DP audio streaming the injury -- specific. Part of the equation comes in because theres actually an app available in the app market the transit blue to I app. That allows you to do things like you know adjusts. The radio station and that you -- transmitting to scenario for example appeared -- eighty point three and experts in Fuzzy you wanna find a new station. Then you can use the -- To you know tuned to another. Six -- I guess -- -- I checked the -- that should be automated to be honest. Say it should be and I think theres actually even like anatomy so we can just hit search and itll. -- for the negative ads to be -- that actually isnt always frequency hop by itself on -- and no ones done that -- -- only once the problem is you up to -- injury to it took its frequency hopping by itself. You would -- for -- anywhere where its going it should voice. Synthesis tell you change to frequency audio dock as -- -- went out and found that its clear but if its changed. Then youre not on the street with some debate over the flow -- the oh right is it would be transmitted to the well do it before it changes in five seconds Im gonna change is a species is still -- -- And like you say the so what this is done is take a traditional FM modulator which uses an aux cord. To an FM transmitter in your car which is hard wired its all modulator is department -- its hard wired vs over the air in your car and replaced with a Bluetooth link. Which you know were not huge ns of DP audio quality in the first place. As it depends on the phone. Some phones are better than others at Dallas and some receivers are better than others have -- -- lowest common denominator theres theres a range of compression ratios. And if your Sony have a local groceries here thats what you get in -- -- -- receiver at low compression ratio even if your phone have a higher when thats what you get so you go to the viewfinder is also the worst audio quality between the -- yet Freeman and then after that. This thing puts it out over FM modulation which has never great -- thats an even if you had a perfect case scenario and a the Bluetooth transmission and that -- MFN -- FM band is already pretty compressed. So is this just gadgetry for gadgetry say its I mean its -- for those people who just want something you know they -- -- gated in in the not Adio. Files somebody wanted to press release for seem. -- -- but -- -- opera it has a total seem a product. -- installer is we got the first Bluetooth bloody blog itll make you look like you got some really cool thing for -- its actually kind -- not that cool. You know the capital chains -- frequency merit thats conical was using these things are using -- -- -- box yet so change the frequency got to get -- -- the dash and flip a switch you I imagine this may be does a lot of different frequencies. Yet out and -- -- noble and ended which is -- It kinda but then again theres another look it -- -- -- -- last week we have our two weeks ago we had an Android artists kitten as we Parse through was like lets go. -- I mean it. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The person who had installed is probably -- crappy speakers anyway so thats probably -- news for -- its doing a huge number of conversions that -- its MP3 to start with -- -- pandora streaming authority gonna sound nasty then it -- a two DP. Then it goes FM transmission. Present when you had that it ten X -- connect. Device a little while back yet that -- it just plugs into a cars auxiliary input right certainly have a -- dog gallery much better solution if you have an auxiliary input thats yet -- -- is so nice and clean hard wired straight -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- This is straight and -- most devices have pretty darn good headphone -- these days thats whats put out of that aux Jack and it sounds real good. And its no theres no -- theres no pairing is -- a lot of iPod car. Kits will have the tools a pig tail. The lecture yeah plug into a USB port on the caller and then a second until report because theyre using the analog audio from the iPods. A -- analog converter and indices in the USB connection to actually these are -- logic charging -- logic yet. -- which is a great hybrid way to go when we see that and Hyundai and Kia all the time. Its really smart muscle -- we have been out its got that the the Japan America